Saturday, July 25, 2009

What decade was it where men wore dress shirts w/black pants w/ dress shoes and suspenders?

and where can i find a picture of this?

What decade was it where men wore dress shirts w/black pants w/ dress shoes and suspenders?
Suspenders have been around since the early 1800's first in British men's fashion. Brits called them "braces." A white collared men's dress shirt and suspenders seem so iconic and timeless it's hard to pinpoint a specific period when men wore them since they have worn them so long and still do for formal wear. 1871 was when the first 3 patents were given for suspenders to none other than Mark Twain under his real name Samual Clemens. The first patent for the modern suspenders with the metal claps though wasn't given until Oct. of 1894 to David Roth a U.S. inventor. Suspenders were once almost universally worn due to the high cut of Mid-19th and early 20th-century trousers; this cut made a belt impractical because pants weren't made to rest on the hips. Elastic waistbands %26amp; better fitting clothes have played a part in suspenders not being as popular. Many men in business, newscasters, %26amp; lawyers still wear them, whether for image or comfort. Since they are formal wear they are now made to button to dress pants.


I have seen photos of men in the 40's and 50's wearing suspenders with white t-shirts %26amp; jeans just casually mostly of the mid to lower class.


I think what you're getting at though is when in America was it very trendy to wear this ensamble?


During the late 20's the Jazz Musicians of Harlem pushed the boundaries of fashion with their big, bold and baggy zoot suits. These suits were not as much the norm as Oxford baggies were at the same time and were mainly underground %26amp; seen more at jazz clubs.


On March 8, 1942, the US Government War Production Board issued regulation L - 85, which regulated every aspect of clothing and restricted the use of natural fibers. Wool availability was cut so all countries turned to the production of artificial fibers. Viscose and rayon (derived from wood pulp) were the most common. Unfortunately, however, they weren’t a good substitute because they weren’t very warm and had a tendency to shrink.


Stanley Marcus, the apparel consultant to the War Production Board, took the stand that it was the designer’s patriotic duty to design fashions which would remain stylish through multiple seasons and use a minimum of fabric. Therefore, men’s suits were made minus vests and pocket flaps and trousers lost their multiple pleats and cuffs. McCalls produced patterns for transforming men’s suits into ladies suits, since the men were at war and not wearing the garments.


There was one exception to the strict rationing of the early forties - the zoot suit. By no means was it sanctioned by the War Production Board - as a matter of fact, the zoot suits were thought of as contraband and illicit items during the War. The fashion was born during the early thirties in Harlem’s nightclubs. It was an exaggerated look comprised of an oversized jacket, wide lapels and shoulders, with baggy low-crotched trousers that narrowed dramatically at the ankle. The zoot influence remained through the 1940s and men’s coats were noticeably roomier as a result of it. Higher-waisted trousers were also due to the influence of the zoot suit. This is the era I think you're thinking of when you openly saw so many suspenders and the black %26amp; white wingtip shoes on men. As far as the pants being black they were actually a wide variety of colors.


Well that was a long rambling account of suspenders but hope it helped. See my third link for some great pics of zoot suits %26amp; suspenders. Or you can just use Yahoo Images tab %26amp; type in "zoot suits" for pics. In case all this writing is completely off base of what you were asking then my fourth link is to the more traditional suspenders, dress pants, %26amp; dress shoes and this look was popular circa turn of the century--1940's or basically during the World Wars. My fourth link has excellent examples of these styles. Click on both the 1920's %26amp; 1930/40's tab.
Reply:Larry King baby
Reply:it was a few decades, 20s-50s, before belts really caught on i guess, but - they'd wear pants or dress pants, dress shoes, dress shirts and even a jacket to match the pants! just look in any old film from then, you'll see it they's also wear hats too!



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